Comments on: College Spring Break – Island Style

By: dadshouse

dadshouse — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:29:17 +0000

Hi Jeff – I just took your photo off my blog, and removed the link to your flickr stream. I won’t post photos from you again, or direct anyone to your work, at your request.

When I was using your pic, I followed the flickr license you posted with the photo. I did not claim to have taken these photos. I did not realize there is a spirit that goes beyond the license. I use stock photos on other parts of my site. Yes, the writing here is mine, and it is copyright, all rights reserved. I’m a writer, not a photographer.

FYI, the flickr community guidelines say this: The Flickr service makes it possible to post content hosted on Flickr to outside web sites. However, pages on other web sites that display content hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo or video back to its page on Flickr.. I did that, not only to follow the letter of the license, but to promote the flickr streams of photographers I enjoy.

I also do not use photos marked with a creative commons license that say “not for commercial use”. It sounds to me like the “spirit” you are talking about falls into that category. Perhaps you should mark your flickr stream that way. Take care.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:19:30 +0000

You’re misunderstanding.
There is a difference between FREE and NO CHARGE.
Common courtesy as well as common sense would dictate that at the very least you credit the photographer.
Music composers work for example has value, in fact your blog has value yet I doubt you would find people using your text with out permission or appropriate credit. Why? Because it would not be the “right thing to do”

I just don’t understand why you would use our photos with out credit and make it look like you have taken the photos yourself.

I’ve read through parts of your blog.You are most defiantly not (in my opinion) a stupid person, nor do you appear to be some kind of a wing nut. In fact you appear quite the opposite. You strike me as being a thoughtful person which is perhaps why I’m so dismayed that you don’t use your own photographs to convey your own story.
I’ve been to your Flickr page and it is a dummy account that serves no purpose other than to lift other peoples work.
Perhaps try spending some time on the Flickr communities and you will see that many people take pride in their work and in fact many people block people with accounts like yours that offer no photographs and no profile information .

Many of us choose to offer our photographs out of good will,maybe we’re naive to think the best of people and think that they won’t try and pass of our work as their own.

I guess if I were to condense my thoughts it would be as follows:

Yes you are following the letter of the law but certainly not the spirit of the law.

Some people give to their communities and some people just TAKE from their communities. Your actions dictate others opinions of you.

Don’t get me wrong….you certainly seem like a nice enough person. I just don’t think that you put any thought into taking someone elses work and passing it off as your own….that IS your own text up on the blog isn’t it?
Regards
Jeff

By: dadshouse

dadshouse — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:03:47 +0000

The photo links back to the flickr page where it came from. The creative commons license there says anyone is free to copy and distribute, with attribution. My understanding is the link back acts as attribution. If I’m in error, I’m happy to fix. Though it seems a good thing having a hyperlink send people to your flickr stream where they can view more of your work. They’re great photos.

By: jeff

jeff — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:15:47 +0000

Most people when they use someone else’s photo either ask or give a credit.
You’ve taken one of my photos that I was good enough to share via creative commons and posted it as though you’ve taken it.

I see you’ve done the same with your other photographs

How is it that you go on these trips but don’t take your own photos to use?

By: Vinomom

Vinomom — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:39:43 +0000

I was in the Dominican Republic in 2005. It was my first tropical vacation (work funded). While it was nice to get away I was horrified by the poverty there. We stayed at Secrets, which I believe is in Playa Del Carmen. On the bus trip there we stopped for a potty break (too many drunk men on the bus). We were mauled by poverty stricken children looking for handouts. It wasn't safe to leave the hotel grounds. I would never go back there. Knowing that so many are suffering around me, I just couldn't get past it. My trip to Riviera Maya, Mexico was much more enjoyable. I'm hoping Aruba will be even better. Vinomom´s last blog post..I could be psychic

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +0000

Dads - I read the article. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. It had plenty of humor and sadly probably a lot of truth to the matter too. Being a fly on those walls would certainly have been interesting. Andrea´s last blog post..Random Tuesday Thoughts

By: T

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:05:18 +0000

Oh.... that sounds SO nice. The ex and I went to the DR once on vacation. We drank so much rum and smoked so many hand-rolled cigars. I was SICK after partaking in all of that. But the mahogany wood was amazing. I still have a few items we picked up from the island. Also, my spring post is up now. Hope you're having a great week! T´s last blog post..Spring cleaning and coming undone